Die Idee des 2mal 2 in 1 Krümmers...
Die Idee des 2mal 2 in 1 Krümmers...
Kam mir letztens so beim Grübeln...
Wenn man anstatt des 4-2-1 Krümmers 2 2-1 Krümmer machen würde und hinten dann zwei Puffrohre rausmacht.
Wär mal was Ausgefallenes. Is sicher aus Platzgründen nicht ganz einfach, aber sicherlich machbar. Nur... bringt das was?
Has anybody any idea what the heck i´m talking about ?!
Wenn man anstatt des 4-2-1 Krümmers 2 2-1 Krümmer machen würde und hinten dann zwei Puffrohre rausmacht.
Wär mal was Ausgefallenes. Is sicher aus Platzgründen nicht ganz einfach, aber sicherlich machbar. Nur... bringt das was?
Has anybody any idea what the heck i´m talking about ?!
Ich hab gar nicht so viel Grip wie ich Reifen brauch...?!?!
Vom A zum D
Vom 2 Liter Sauger zum 1.6 Liter Turbo
Zurück zum A! Diesmal mit Gebläse!
Vom A zum D
Vom 2 Liter Sauger zum 1.6 Liter Turbo
Zurück zum A! Diesmal mit Gebläse!
and what happens to the scavenging effect that exhaust pulses from different cylinders use to suck mixture into the next cylinder (or in most cases simply to evacuate exhaust gases from that cylinder)?
not much. they will not be very effective at doing that at all, as they would require unusually long primary pipes to have any effect. in which case you might as well simply bolt 4 long pipes to the head - that would have pretty much the same effect...
the other problem ist that you can not decrease the diameter of the primary pipe as it must still carry the exhaust gases away effectively - decreasing its size will give you better emissions, but it will also drastically reduce the VE of your engine as the cylinder will still be full of already burnt mixture.
sound wise. it would sound a bit like an off beat 2-stroke engine. not very nice at all.
regards
mat
not much. they will not be very effective at doing that at all, as they would require unusually long primary pipes to have any effect. in which case you might as well simply bolt 4 long pipes to the head - that would have pretty much the same effect...
the other problem ist that you can not decrease the diameter of the primary pipe as it must still carry the exhaust gases away effectively - decreasing its size will give you better emissions, but it will also drastically reduce the VE of your engine as the cylinder will still be full of already burnt mixture.
sound wise. it would sound a bit like an off beat 2-stroke engine. not very nice at all.
regards
mat
no speakers... no bodykits... no bullshit!
Ok, it just came to my mind.
Again a lesson learned.
Thanks for the replies and explenations.
I´m sure, one day I will come up with an idea, which will relvolute the whole engine building.
I just need so more time
Again a lesson learned.
Thanks for the replies and explenations.
I´m sure, one day I will come up with an idea, which will relvolute the whole engine building.
I just need so more time
Ich hab gar nicht so viel Grip wie ich Reifen brauch...?!?!
Vom A zum D
Vom 2 Liter Sauger zum 1.6 Liter Turbo
Zurück zum A! Diesmal mit Gebläse!
Vom A zum D
Vom 2 Liter Sauger zum 1.6 Liter Turbo
Zurück zum A! Diesmal mit Gebläse!
yeah - lots of time - there are a lot of very smart people out there that think about this kind of stuff every day...
just for your info - some engine builders have tried a slightly different configuration of linking the primary pipes: instead of linking 1&3, 2&4 the linked 1&2 3&4. the theory was, that at high RPM the amount of exhaust produced would be sufficient to create a pulse to pull gases from the next cylinder (wich would require a very long pulse).
what they found was that they needed incredibly short primaries to actually get a scavenging effect, ruining the torque spread. it did actually allow the engine to rev a little more freely at very high rpm, with a 1BHP gain at ~10000 rpm when compared to a conventional exhaust design.
needless to say - the idea was binned very quickly because it made the car uncompetetive. a 1bhp gain did not justify the lack of power everywhere else... bearing in mind that these are top spec engines - imagine what an exhaust like that would to to a "mildly tuned" engine.
just for your info - some engine builders have tried a slightly different configuration of linking the primary pipes: instead of linking 1&3, 2&4 the linked 1&2 3&4. the theory was, that at high RPM the amount of exhaust produced would be sufficient to create a pulse to pull gases from the next cylinder (wich would require a very long pulse).
what they found was that they needed incredibly short primaries to actually get a scavenging effect, ruining the torque spread. it did actually allow the engine to rev a little more freely at very high rpm, with a 1BHP gain at ~10000 rpm when compared to a conventional exhaust design.
needless to say - the idea was binned very quickly because it made the car uncompetetive. a 1bhp gain did not justify the lack of power everywhere else... bearing in mind that these are top spec engines - imagine what an exhaust like that would to to a "mildly tuned" engine.
no speakers... no bodykits... no bullshit!
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